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	<title>Comments on: STFC&#8217;s plans</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Nichol</title>
		<link>http://chrislintott.net/2007/12/11/stfcs-plans/#comment-30799</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Nichol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

To add to the gloom, you neglected to mention the potential huge cut (upto 25%) to the STFC grant system. These grants fund all of us but especially the young active scientists. So, I am mostly worried that we will soon have a UK scientific community dominated by old farts like me! We can do science without all these telescopes (sorry!) but we can't do science without people. 

I should also note that our american colleagues are also feeling a squeeze. Seems their DoE funding is taking a massive hit as well. This may have implications for dark energy missions planned.

happy new year.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>To add to the gloom, you neglected to mention the potential huge cut (upto 25%) to the STFC grant system. These grants fund all of us but especially the young active scientists. So, I am mostly worried that we will soon have a UK scientific community dominated by old farts like me! We can do science without all these telescopes (sorry!) but we can&#8217;t do science without people. </p>
<p>I should also note that our american colleagues are also feeling a squeeze. Seems their DoE funding is taking a massive hit as well. This may have implications for dark energy missions planned.</p>
<p>happy new year&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice Sheppard</title>
		<link>http://chrislintott.net/2007/12/11/stfcs-plans/#comment-27947</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice Sheppard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words, if you want to be a scientist, leave the UK. How sickening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, if you want to be a scientist, leave the UK. How sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: Hywel</title>
		<link>http://chrislintott.net/2007/12/11/stfcs-plans/#comment-27778</link>
		<dc:creator>Hywel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunno if you heard Radio 4 on Friday night, or exactly what it means, but they said the following: 'The funding crisis facing British physics has deepened, with news that Europe's biggest science project, the particle collider at CERN near Geneva, has approved an increase in its annual budget of thirty million pounds. The Science and Technology Facilities Council, which has already announced big cuts in a series of international schemes and research grants, will now have to find even more money to fund CERN. The council is facing an 80 million pound shortfall as a result of the Government's Comprehensive Spending Review.'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno if you heard Radio 4 on Friday night, or exactly what it means, but they said the following: &#8216;The funding crisis facing British physics has deepened, with news that Europe&#8217;s biggest science project, the particle collider at CERN near Geneva, has approved an increase in its annual budget of thirty million pounds. The Science and Technology Facilities Council, which has already announced big cuts in a series of international schemes and research grants, will now have to find even more money to fund CERN. The council is facing an 80 million pound shortfall as a result of the Government&#8217;s Comprehensive Spending Review.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Not Even Wrong &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UK Pulls Out Of ILC</title>
		<link>http://chrislintott.net/2007/12/11/stfcs-plans/#comment-27190</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Even Wrong &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UK Pulls Out Of ILC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: More here, here and here. These budget cuts seem to be especially problematic for astronomy research, with particle physics not so much affected as the UK retains its commitment to CERN and the LHC. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: More here, here and here. These budget cuts seem to be especially problematic for astronomy research, with particle physics not so much affected as the UK retains its commitment to CERN and the LHC. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alastair</title>
		<link>http://chrislintott.net/2007/12/11/stfcs-plans/#comment-27141</link>
		<dc:creator>alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems crazy to me that with taxation running at the highest level ever, reportedly 42% of GDP, we're talking about scaling back on government-funded astronomy and physics research.

I suspect that your argument about the recent upgrades will carry the day for UKIRT and MERLIN. I don't really see any serious counter to that, and I think the public would be most upset to learn that having just spent millions on upgrades they were being abandoned.

As for what amounts to a further pull-out from ESA, well, the British government has always been less than visionary when it comes to space. That's why the only recent British exploratory mission was run by a farmer who had to raise funding himself (yes, I know he's a bit more than just a farmer; my point was that in other countries, it wouldn't have happened that way). I know we have a long tradition of men in sheds doing things that officialdom won't support and/or disapproves of, but you would have thought that past history (e.g. the jet engine…) would make officialdom a little less cynical. Perhaps Einstein was right; maybe human stupidity really is infinite. It's just that a disproportionate amount of it seems to be manifest in our political masters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems crazy to me that with taxation running at the highest level ever, reportedly 42% of GDP, we&#8217;re talking about scaling back on government-funded astronomy and physics research.</p>
<p>I suspect that your argument about the recent upgrades will carry the day for UKIRT and MERLIN. I don&#8217;t really see any serious counter to that, and I think the public would be most upset to learn that having just spent millions on upgrades they were being abandoned.</p>
<p>As for what amounts to a further pull-out from ESA, well, the British government has always been less than visionary when it comes to space. That&#8217;s why the only recent British exploratory mission was run by a farmer who had to raise funding himself (yes, I know he&#8217;s a bit more than just a farmer; my point was that in other countries, it wouldn&#8217;t have happened that way). I know we have a long tradition of men in sheds doing things that officialdom won&#8217;t support and/or disapproves of, but you would have thought that past history (e.g. the jet engine…) would make officialdom a little less cynical. Perhaps Einstein was right; maybe human stupidity really is infinite. It&#8217;s just that a disproportionate amount of it seems to be manifest in our political masters.</p>
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